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patricia19 · November 28, 2024, 12:55:05 PM

MaryPage, thank you, but this time it wasn't one of my falls but one of my friends. He had fallen, but luckily wears his phone on a loop, so was able to call for help. He spent overnight in the hospital as a precaution, but was able to return home the following day.

I believe everyone razzing on him finally convinced him that a Lifeline was better than a phone if he couldn't call out. This is one of the reasons we have our morning meet and greets, texting or calling each day so we know everyone is okay.

One precaution I have taken for the past two years, is the use of a trekking pole whenever I'm outside, especially in the winter with the ice and snow.

CallieOK · November 28, 2024, 12:58:03 PM

, Everyfriend!

Hope those of you who had fallen recover quickly. Sounds as if you're getting good care.

Patricia, several of my meds say "MAY cause dizziness" but I have to take them. Sometimes, I feel off-balance but, so far, have always managed to grab my walker before I fall.

Wise decision, Jackie

Barb, I've thought of getting an alert but haven't investigated it. I'm sure tha sons, who live locally, would encourage it.
I have a structural feet problem and. several years ago, the podiatrist told me "limited walking and standing". I asked him what "limited" meant and he said, "Not more than 2 hours out of 8". I told him that's even not a good shopping trip to the Mall!!!!! I did walk regularly around the complex where I live.
Now, I use a walker and can't even walk down the block to the cluster mailboxes. (Went through the procedure and now have a mailbox by front door so mailperson delivers it here) So there are new neighbors I haven't even met.
Can't shop, either, so give Gift cards for Christmas.

Mary Page, nurse practioners usually are more helpful than doctors, IMO!! I prefer to see the female physical assistant rather than my General doctor.

I've watched the Macy's parade and am looking forward to the original movie of "Mary Poppins" (with Julie Andrews and Dick Van Dyke) tonight on ABC. Son who isn't in Cancun just texted that he's bringing a plate of dinner to me "later". Yum!

Vanilla-Jackie · November 28, 2024, 01:55:58 PM

BarbStAubrey, MaryPage and Callie...
...very wise words..." our body rules our lives " and thank you for spurring me on with " my sensible plan " and " wise decision " only time will tell...

Marilyne · November 29, 2024, 12:44:15 PM

Hello everyone, and Happy Black Friday, to those who still get out there in the trenches, to search for Christmas bargains. I'm not one of them, and I never was . . . even when I was young and able.

Mars - I saw your message in SS, about noticing all the seniors with walkers and wheelchairs, at your Thanksgiving dinner. Same thing at the restaurant where we went yesterday. The dining room was large and spacious with quite a few round tables in the middle of the room. Those were for large family groups, and there were many people there in wheelchairs, as well as with walkers. There were five of us, and we sat in one of the comfortable booths that circled the room. A perfect view of the room, so I could do plenty of "people watching"! The turkey dinner was very good, and plenty of everything.

So now it's onward to Christmas, less than one month away. I've ordered a few gifts, but will probably end up giving money or gift cards.

Jackie - I was happy to read about your new living arrangement! Now you'll have 24 hour support, and no more falls for you to worry about. It sounds wonderful for you and for all those who live alone.

Callie and Mary Page - Agree that the Nurse Practitioners, are a good asset to any medical practice. The spend much more time asking important questions, and seem genuinely concerned about our problems! Unfortunately, the one I counted on seeing at my Primary Care doctors, has left to go to medical school and get her MD degree. Good for her, but I miss her, and no one has come to take her place.

Barb - I'm so glad that you've joined us here in S&F. I enjoy reading your messages in all of the discussions that you've posted in, and I'm looking forward to more!

BarbStAubrey · November 29, 2024, 04:44:43 PM

Vanilla-Jackie please keep us updated with your experiences in your new home.

Callie can't thank you enough for mentioning Mary Poppins would be on TV and sure enough came home from Paul and Sally's wonderful Thanksgiving and was able to relax watching this wonderful movie - so many years ago - I don't think today people much less even children imagine the outrageous yet simple storyline of a Mary Poppins. Dick Van Dyke now in his mid to late 90s my oh my...

Marilyn so kind to welcome me and my posts - it is such a great relief to have folks to talk with that are not full of quips and what I call disrespect that is common among the younger folks plus, with all my friends having passed it is a joy to have instant correspondence with others getting on in years.

Best part of Thanksgiving yesterday - hard to say - Sally had the counter table so festive set with her love for red - red plates, serving bowls, placemats etc... and she roasted a chicken that was so juicy and tender plus all the traditional sides that included dressing that was her mother's recipe followed by her fresh baked pumpkin pie - we really enjoyed our time together and then the boys started to call - oh, oh, oh - all five of them and they all talked and talked and talked - I was sitting on the sofa with Paul watching a football game and Sally decorating for Christmas with her huge collection of gnomes for 3 hours as they each had tons to share - their personality differences was fun to agree upon with mostly Paul after the calls - it was a full visit and now for Christmas - I know we will get together before they drive up to Lubbock and so it is not a complete lonely heart club day - need to work on how to enjoy the day...

MaryPage · December 01, 2024, 03:36:07 PM

I could not agree more about the tenor of messaging among the young of today. What happened to "Be nice, if you expect others to be nice to you!" Oh well, nothing I can do to improve this old world. I sort of kind of get the drift that the dominant life form is about to do a switcheroo with homo sapiens sapiens going down & a few million years passing on this planet before a new one becomes prominent & takes over. Have been restudying HUMAN PREHISTORY and the FIRST CIVILIZATIONS lectures put out as The Great Courses from The Teaching Company. Wishing we could have met up, peacefully of course, with the inhabitants of a few of our fellow planets in my lifetime. Sounds like some of our intelligence machinery, or perhaps even folks, may have been reached out to through some of the UFO out there in what we call Space. Case of too little, too late? Marypage would adore to hear the answer before she pops off!

P.S. I adored, WE adored, Mary Poppins as well & all.

Marilyne · December 01, 2024, 06:29:54 PM

MaryPage . . . on the Subject line you wrote, "THESE MESSAGES SEEM TO BE A BIT STRANGELY OUT OF SYNC"?
I'm thinking that you might be seeing the Christmas Theme, that oldiesmann recently switched over to? It kinda makes the whole set-up of Seniors and Friends look different, until you get used to it.

I've also been hoping that we (our World) would have some definite communication with life on other planets, before I take my leave from this one. Looks like it's not going to happen anytime soon, but maybe our children, grands, or great-grands, will live to see it?

I'm glad you enjoyed Mary Poppins, and I did too! A real masterpiece, in my opinion. Right along side of The Wizard of Oz.

So, the long Thanksgiving weekend is almost over, and tomorrow is Cyber-Monday. I've been waiting to order some of my gifts until then. Also, one of my granddaughters, has a birthday coming up on the 13th, and a great-grandson on the 16th so will have to get those taken care of first. Tomorrow will be a busy day.

BarbStAubrey · December 01, 2024, 11:27:39 PM

Marilyne tip - why not take advantage of the sales for Cyber Monday and stock up on your regular products - some of what I ordered - mouthwash, filters for the furnace and my room air filters, Trash sacks, wrapping tissue and paper, gorilla glue, bulk paper-towels, replaced some undies and did treat myself to a book of piano music - all the other ordering was family Christmas - I did found the same products on sale for both Black Friday and Cyber Monday and so It appears to me it is one long week of sales.

Still chewing on the idea of other intelligent beings on other galaxies - could be but if our spiritual nature is dependent on a God than the idea of other intelligent beings gets confusing - I guess they too could have a spiritual nature and their God like some here on earth would not be dependent on a Judeo/Christian God - as I say I'm still chewing because I really do think the universe is an extension of the power of God and I do not hear scientists based in, much less including that concept.

I've read several news articles that more Bibles have been purchased this season then ever and there is a new book out about the coming American Revival - it would be nice if this pans out as true and then maybe civility will reemerge as normal and desirable again.

MarsGal · December 02, 2024, 07:18:06 AM

The Bible has been and is still the top selling book in the world. It doesn't surprise me that more were sold this past year considering what has been going on world-wide. I sometimes wonder that with all these updated translations and modernized wording if we have lost something of what was truly said and/or intended, and gotten "off track". I hope not too far, but there do seem to be a number of different viewpoints. This is a current list of top selling books and series, etc. https://markmanson.net/best-books/best-selling-books-all-time Very interesting. In the top 15 books there are two I have never heard of before, The Truth that Leads to Eternal Life and Dream of the Red Chamber. Notice what is #2. Most of the other lists are his choices of best books, I think.

Marilyne · December 02, 2024, 11:32:24 AM

Mars, I've been looking at the list of, Best Selling Books of All Time, for the past hour, and can't quit thinking about it. Like you, I'm not surprised to see the Bible, at the top, of the list, but I do fear that The Quran, will soon catch up and become # One. So much to say about this possibility, and I'm afraid people - those who automatically call themselves Christians - are not paying attention to what's going on. So much to say about this subject, and the many possibilities ahead. I tend to look on "The Dark Side", when it comes to the future.

BarbStAubrey · December 02, 2024, 01:10:39 PM

The Truth that Leads to Eternal Life is the Watchtower version of the Bible - never knew much about the Watchtower except even as a kid they were around handing out their literature in public - we were taught to shy away from them and never read their 'stuff' We were told it was anti-christian - that lesson was powerful because to this day I have trepidation's about learning more about the Watchtower that does tout itself as a comfort coping with problems.

And the other is actually one book of 5 from Story Of The Stone - The books are a classic series about a Chinese family as it becomes powerful and then declines, how they live, all the mannerisms of the time in history. Nothing particularly religious except Chinese culture included a 'spiritual' aspect as most of the world's cultures.

As to the Quran from what little I did read yes, there are some incendiary paragraphs but from what I read not directed towards a particular religious group but then, I read some of the awful things done to others in our Judeo/Christian Bible and I have to scratch my head ---

My take is there are bad apples among every group and all these books shoring up our spiritual side that is reflected in our behavior can focus on and readers can interpret any part of the written word as they have guidance or read benching their ego - The bad apples who are the leaders of these groups are powerful so they sway many - which frankly is what I think the national media has done and still does to those who still take their word as true. When it happens among religious groups it feels more invasive and a greater betrayal of humanity.

It's time for a revival in my opinion - the last huge national revival was in the 1920s that held fast through the 1950s and then started to teeter off - today there is a huge change in technology as there was after in the early part of the 20th century with the change in farming equipment throwing many families into Tenant farming since they were no longer needed to farm for a large land/farm owner who now had equipment to replace their labor. I was surprised when I read that 75% of farmers were Tenant farmers through till WWII after which new material developed into new products and moving to a city was the answer. But getting through that change even before the great Depression and dealing with the change after WWI the old Tent Camp meetings and other forms of a religious revival happened.

This view of history makes me wonder if not only the political upheaval where both parties are no longer the parties they were 20 or 30 years ago, the media is more than ever a tool of propaganda and advanced technology has together brought about a spiritual vacuum - I know like both of you are suggesting I've had it - I'm exhausted - I'm between anger and disbelief - I wonder at times if I am real or is it clouds of nothing I'm walking on - I know so much of this is seeing my family so splintered and the quips that cannot seem to escape a couple of them rather than simply focusing on family - but then I realize keeping family together is my value and evidently not shared as the number one value behind their spiritual values. OH dear... better stop this tirade - onward...

BarbStAubrey · December 02, 2024, 01:57:38 PM

Wow just did the game on Association and the word imagine reminded me of the John Lennon song and so looked up the words --- Holy Hannah - no wonder... sounds like the preamble for the globalists agenda... and everyone loved and still loves the music of John Lennon

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us, only sky

Imagine all the people
Livin' for today
Ah

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too

Imagine all the people
Livin' life in peace
You

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man

Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

Marilyne · December 02, 2024, 04:15:05 PM

Barb -It's good to know that there are like-minded people here, but probably best to close this subject for now. Anything controversial, thought provoking or unpleasant, is rarely brought up and discussed in S&F.

I would like so much to know what's in the future for this country and the whole world, what with all the hatred and division that's become so rampant now - stoked by the media. It will take a long time before there are any permanent positive changes, and most of us here in S&F, won't be around to see how things turn out.

I was interested in reading the lyrics you posted, to Imagine.
I always thought of it as a typical "Kumbaya" type song . . . but when you really take a close look, you can see that there's a lot more to it! Thanks for pointing that out.

MarsGal · December 02, 2024, 05:01:21 PM

My thoughts exactly about the Quran and the current goings on, Marilyn. I heard recently that Islam is quickly gaining ground. I didn't go research it to see if it is true though.

I remember the frequent visits to our door by the Seventh Day Adventists and the Mormons who were doing their year of witnessing for their faith and trying to get new members. Mom and Dad did invite the Mormons guys in for conversations for a while, and we even went to their church a few times. Nice people. I also remember Oral Roberts and his televised version of revivals. Once in a while I would hear of, but never saw, a local revival meeting nearby.

Barb, I never thought of Imagine being a globalist philosophy, but it sure does sound like it. Globalist ideology wasn't on the radar back then. It was not one of my favorite songs. The Beatles were the first and mostly the only fan frenzy I ever went through as a teen, but they lost me as a fan when I discovered they were into bad behavior and drugs.

Marilyne · Reply #23684 - Re: Norms Bait and Tackle

This morning I got ready early, and drove to our local super market, for "Senior Tuesday". It's a gorgeous day today, so it was a pleasure to be out enjoying it. Bright sun, clear blue sky, and temperature supposed to hit 70, later today. Whenever we have a day like this, people are out jogging, pushing strollers, walking dogs and riding bicycles. It's little stressful now, to drive across town with all that activity to keep track of. I don't know how much longer I'm going to be able to keep doing it. Anyway, I got lots of food for the next couple of days. I also saw my dil there, so had a nice chat with her.

I had forgotten about The Watchtower/Jehovah's Witnesses. I think they are Christian, but they don't celebrate Christmas? I haven't seen them around this area in many years. The Mormon's, I'm very familiar with, because we live a short block from the LDS Church. Over the years we've had the young Missionaries knock on our door, and we've invited them in a couple of times, and listened to what they had to say. All three of our children went to functions at the church throughout their childhoods and teens. They have a large gym for basketball, and also used to have Saturday night dances there for teenagers. I have nothing but good things to say about the Mormon families that I've known over the years.

BarbStAubrey · Reply #23685 - Re: Norms Bait and Tackle

Any Church having a gym to play basketball is a boon to teenagers - or at lest it was. Today's teenagers are so buried behind their phone I wonder if they play any sports for fun and being with their friends. When I was a teen the local Methodist Church was the one with the gym - open everyday till 6: in the evening - for us it worked out great since supper was a family affair - for me that happened about 6:30 when my Dad came home. However, as much as the gym was a boon to the teenage community I don't think it swayed anyone to switch their religion or attend service in the church with the gym.

Overcast this afternoon and getting colder by the minute - I knew there was a norther blowing in however, the weather report was saying on Wednesday - just as well since i really need to take stock and re-asses my income and outgo - spent without counting using the sales to stock up on everything in addition to Christmas Shopping - first flush my credit card took a huge chunk and so now I have to sort it all out and put the purchases in categories - my gut says I did not overspend it was just so many everyday product on sale so that I won't be shopping again till at least late January if not February. Everything from furnace filters to liquid soup, vitamins, tea, undies, mouthwash, trash sacks, on and on. Price reduction ranged from 20% to as much as 45% - feel like a squirrel with a full winter storehouse.

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